WTO Follow Up
As you said ......we have different callings and giftings and that will
affect our view points as to the degree of.. or kind of active
participation we play, as this picture plays out. Some will be martyrs
for Christ, before it is over, and others will be working underground to
bring HIS kingdom and the Body of Christ into fullness. But......
I would only like to remind us all of something the Lord reminded me
of, one time, when I was all fired up and ready to attack the enemy head
on and up front. After all,.... we are the army of God?......
Right?..... We as prophetic ministers are very discerning and that is a
very much needed part of the body. Usually we see the "snake" before
or even when others don't, soooooo, our first instinct is, we want to
alert everyone to the fact that a SNAKE is in the midst of the
camp!!!!!!!!! SNAKE!, SNAKE! YES......we ARE to recognize the Snake
and NOT be DECEIVED by it ...but.... it is up to ....the LORD.....
what... HE.....wants US to DO about it. Whether our next move is to
confront... or just pray. If it is a public issue, church issue, or
private family and friend issue, of course, will make a difference in
action, .......every situation is different. That is why we need
to seek HIS will before we do anything.
We can cause more harm sometimes but going in like a bull in a china
cabinet trying to eradicate the snake, than if we waited on the Lord for
instruction of how to eliminate the evil presence. A one-on-one
situation is different than public protest but, It is not His will that
any perish. It could be His will to get the snake saved........ but we
blew it's cover and raised such a stink it ran away. We say to
ourselves, "Aren't we good? ..... WE saw that snake and chased it
off"...... ......We could be sitting there satisfied we had done a good
job of protecting the body........ and missed what God really wanted us
to do,which could have brought about a better result and given the Glory
to God. It's something I have had to think about..............
.........HE is the commander in this
battle and when we get on our spiritual high horse and try to take the
battle into our own hands we will become one of it's causalities.
It is ONLY at HIS command that we are to advance upon the enemy
territory and we are to stay under HIS covering with our ear to the
spirit to receive the next step. Now I'm not saying that to sit down
and do nothing is the answer or to stay home and pray only is the answer
or that to advance upon the enemy physically and verbally is not the
answer.
All I am saying is, I learned by experience that the Battle is the Lords
and He knows the best way to win it. We are soldiers under His command
and we are to be subject to HIS orders to advance or retreat or stand
ground. Each situation and soldier is different and the strategy will
probably be different in each case. Many times, I see Christians with a
plan,...... we want a plan that works no matter what the situation.
Yeah!..... just do it this way or that and it will get the result YOU
want. That is the point .....It is not OUR WILL but HIS WILL that we
are here to accomplish. If Jesus had to use this approach and He was God
.......well I state my case.............
............ Praise the Lord! The Battle is the Lords!
Again this is not a battle plan to follow. The Lord has the plans for
each situation..... listen for what He tells you to do..... and then, DO
IT!
Another time when I was to stand my ground and was less brave He said
to me, " You have nothing to fear but Me."
Proverbs 9:10-11
10. The fear (respect for His wisdom, power and might as well as His
love and mercy) of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom : and the
knowledge of the holy is understanding. 11. For by me thy days shall be
multiplied, and the years of thy life shall be increased.
Blessing on you,
In the name of Y'shua,
Annette
Baruch Ha Ba BaShem Adonai
Hello beautiful people,
Well I think that we have a lively discussion according to the last
message I sent concerning the World Trade Organization. I have written
more on the subject as a web page by the way at
http://latter-rain.com/freedom/seattlewto.htm. A few responded and we
should discuss it, or not. Anyway, the first to respond was someone that
I have known for a while:
"Take me off your chat mailing list. Thank you."
Now since I have known the man through communication I can see what
happened here. The issue here is activism and the idea of protests and
demonstrations. The Lord has given me an activist spirit, so I can
sympathize with those that have been led to do something to bring about
social justice and the denunciation of oppression. Those in the
five-fold and those with spiritual gifts in operation in the churches
know that a typical evangelical conservative will not be on the "hot"
side in the temperature of the Holy Ghost, their pastors and teachers
will generally deny the power and think that spiritual gifts died out in
the first century. The Evangelicals are the main antagonists against the
social gospel and at the ballot box they do their best to dismantle the
social gains of the last century. Those churches that are involved in
social action as the prophets of denunciation can be seen as "cold" as
regards to Holy Ghost power but are the ones that have the courage to be
led of the Lord to effect social change. Jesus would have us as one or
the other. The ones in the middle are "luke warm" and don't fit on
either side. They are generally content with their salvation, don't want
to get involved and usually don't want to rock the boat of their
comfortable circumstances. We need to be open-minded enough to see all
sides. You should also know that the universal church is made up of
seven spirits and each are diverse.
I mentioned to most of you that coming to one accord means that some of
us must go through the fire. Even so, if you feel the heat, don't drop
out, we are doing a good thing here. Many are called but few are chosen,
stick with it and pray through. The trial of your faith is more precious
than gold and should endure the trial of fire.
The second response also tells a story:
"I am sorry to say I don't watch too much news, or read the papers. For
the very reason, there is too much violence and how do we know if it is
the truth. I need to know exactly what we need to do to fight the
spiritual wars? Thank you!"
Well as we see from that Doctor that gave the report out of Seattle, we
really can't trust the news reports for the truth. Conservatives are
fond of blasting the "liberal" media but it is the right-wing insanity
that has dominated the press lately and in the distortion of the truth
are taking on the nature of the beast. To be able to pray for the
spiritual battles we need to know what to pray for and who to pray for.
Many of us, especially those with the Elijah spirit are under compulsion
to denounce the oppression of the poor in order to bring about the
kingdom gospel. All sides of the army of God in these last days need
prayer.
The next response is good but I think that more discussion is necessary
in this:
"I agree that our battle is not against flesh and blood but against the
rulers and authorities in the heavenly places. Our weapons are not
carnal. I have mixed feelings about participation in protest events.
Each of us must be sensitively led by the Holy Spirit as to what if any
part we should play. Jesus did not participate in such events even
though the atrocities and injustices of His day were apparent. My own
thoughts are that we are as lambs to be led to the slaughter and that
ultimately we will lay down our lives at the end of this age for God's
redemptive purposes in restoring the creation. In the interim,
certainly our prayers are more effective
than our public demonstrations. Nevertheless, I will not summarily
conclude what the leading of others should be. In my own case, however,
the violence that will further the Kingdom will be done in the prayer
closet and not on the streets. I don't think it's a Kingdom principle
to
justify, to argue, to publically demonstrate against, or to otherwise
enter into the arena of the world to further the cause of
righteousness. Aren't those carnal weapons? It was the Angel of the
Lord that slew the 180,000 and it seems to me the battles in the Book
of Revelation are decided in the same manner."
We are certainly to pray but for me to stay there all comfortable is a
cop-out. This is in regards to me, you understand, others who are called
as prayer warriors may have the better way, certainly safer, it is the
prophets that are killed. If you are a prophet, the prayer closet will
be a tomb. We must denounce the economic oppression of the poor and
certainly expose the obvious signs of the One World Order that in part
the WTO will show itself to be. Prayer is a virtue for us too, but if it
becomes a cloak for political irresponsibility and self-righteous
indifference, then it is only legalistic, white-washed and pretentious.
The fact is that the vast majority of the world's people and nations are
subject to unjust domination. To sit by and let that happen without
trying to do something about it is the sin of omission. Christian love
must be framed as a struggle to eliminate sin from the world. Today that
situation is marked by the great injustice and inequity in the
distribution and enjoyment of the world's common resources.
The next comment needs no response from me. Do we agree on this? Or not.
"Thanks Bro. Jay for the information about what happened to our peaceful
state Seattle, Washington. I was really surprised when it happened. I'm
thinking also that the WTO is the initial step for One World Economic
System, as I read your article it confirmed what I prayed, God answered
my prayers... Bless you Jay."
Let all the people tremble in fear, for the Day of the Lord's vengeance
is almost upon us and will come as destruction from the Almighty. The
Day of the Lord is close, its a day of wrath, a day of trouble and
distress, a day of waste and desolation. Mighty men shall cry bitterly
and it will be a day of gloom and thick darkness for the proud, the rich
and the lofty. Distress will come upon men that they shall walk like the
blind because they have sinned against the Lord. They will beat their
breasts in shame and cover their heads in their hands. Their blood will
be poured out like water and all of their money and possessions shall
not be able to deliver them.
The trumpet is at your lips. Knowing the truth gives you a solemn
responsibility. Will you blow the trumpet in Zion, sound an alarm in my
holy mountain, against the fenced cities, and against the high towers,
saith the Lord. Arise my people. The world will behold you as great and
strong, never have they seen the likes of you and neither shall be any
more like you after this. Be strong and take courage for a devouring
fire is set before you and behind you a flame burns. Gather yourselves
together, O nation not desired; yes gather together without shame, you
are worthy. Gather yourself together as one and come against her. There
is still time, rise up to the battle before the decree comes forth,
before the day passes as the chaff and before the fierce anger of the
Lord comes upon you. Humble yourself and seek the Lord now, you meek of
the earth and execute judgement - seek righteousness, seek meekness,
seek holiness, it may be that you shall be hid in the Day of the Lord's
anger.
Jay.
December 9, 1999
Beth Menorah Ministry
Alan and Annette Hake
(Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord )
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